> It allows me to inject determinism into my workflows. Did it though? Because i...

taytus · 2026-04-24T22:14:43 1777068883

Hooks are hard stops. In theory the model must respect them, unlike Claude.md or agents.md so yeah, it helps a lot.

xienze · 2026-04-24T22:29:51 1777069791

Yes, in theory. But these are inherently non-deterministic systems interpreting English prose. It's not the same thing as a real honest-to-God program that executes a deterministic algorithm to verify the output.

I can't believe we've sunk this low, to start complaining that the non-deterministic black box didn't respect "YOU MUST DO THIS" or "DO NOT DO THIS" commands in a Markdown file. We used to be engineers.

tkiolp4 · 2026-04-24T22:29:48 1777069788

That has never been true.

AndyNemmity · 2026-04-24T22:13:16 1777068796

I mean, skills also include calling python scripts. That's determinism.

Anything that can be deterministic, should be

taytus · 2026-04-24T22:15:23 1777068923

Skills are not like hooks. Skills can and will inevitably be ignored.

AndyNemmity · 2026-04-25T06:20:36 1777098036

Skills are not ignored if you use a router in front of them, and they are actually called.

The problem is the base harnesses don't call them aggressively enough. Not that they don't work.