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Is there a single person here interested in photonic computing that wants to explain to the class if there's any "there" there?
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Immediately:

* You can pack many more different colors into fiber optic communication lines. Every color carries a few tens of GHz in modulation, but the carrier light is in hundreds of THz; there's a ton of bandwidth not used between readily available colors.

* You can likely do interesting molecular chemistry by precisely adjusting laser light to the energy levels of particular bonds / electrons.

* Maybe you can precisely target particular wavelengths / absorption bands for more efficient laser cutting and welding, if these adjustable lasers can be made high-power.


Fiber has fairly narrow windows in which it is as transparent as it needs to be to go long distance. We're already pretty good at filling these windows with conventional semiconductor lasers.

What this is actually interesting for is being able to access arbitrary atomic transitions, many of which are outside the range of conventional semiconductors (too short, usually - there's a big hole between green and red for semiconductors). That's why they talk about quantum stuff.


This is true. But even within this window, e.g. between 1100 nm infrared and 700 nm red, we could put 40 different "colors" at 10 nm steps. Separation at the receiving end may become hard though.

Standard ITU grid is 100 GHz channel spacing, with subdivisions of 25 and 50. We're routinely using symbol rates high enough that the channels are fairly well filled.

They already do 1nm in dwdm.

* Concert lasers just got a lot cooler.

Concert tickets will still remain very hot though.

Even with the latest updates?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/arts/music/live-nation-an...


> precisely adjusting laser light to the energy levels of particular bonds / electrons.

However, the article is talking about discrete wavelengths. The device gives you a choice between a bunch of different fixed wavelengths.

It isn't actually tunable to specific frequencies.

Disclaimer: skim read article plus I know very little about the topic


We can tune them slightly with differences in temperature if I recall correctly, but there are limited uses for a few nanometers up or down in wavelength. If there's now a versatile multi wavelength generator for numerous specific discrete frequencies, you may be able to just cool it down to access nearby bands.

Didn't we already invent much of this with wavelength division multiplexing and optical routing switches, the invention that pierced the tech bubble by quite suddenly increasing bandwidth of in-place fiber pipes by ~100x during a large buildout?

(I am not an expert, but this is the narrative I've heard; I may not be using the right words)


There is there there...

The substance is they've created a way to fabricate a device that can make the optical frequencies they wish. That is useful: it means a designer isn't limited to frequencies that are economic to generate with existing techniques, which is a constraint that lasers currently struggle with: low cost, compact, efficient laser sources (the kind that fit on a chip, and are fabricated by cost effective processes,) only exist for a limited number of frequencies.

The story is typical tech journalism pabulum, but the underlying paper does discuss efficiency. It's about what you'd expect: 35 mW -> 6 mW @ 485 nm, for example.

An obvious use case is multimode fiber communication: perhaps this makes it possible to use more frequencies for greater bandwidth and/or make the devices cheaper/smaller/more efficient. But there are other, more exotic things one might do when some optical frequency that was previously uneconomic becomes feasible to use at scale.


I wonder if this could also work for (e)uv

Probably not because EUV gets absorbed incredibly quickly by anything other than vacuum. This is why it is created in low density gas, thin liquid or solid samples (high harmonic generation) or electron clouds (free electron laser).

I wondered this too - why are you being downvoted for asking?

All the difficulty to create that laser it seems fair enough to ask!


It’s like any other fundamental research: you don’t know how much it’s worth until people start using it to solve real problems. This is something that is literally impossible to guess ahead of time. The most abstract mathematical techniques could turn into a trillion–dollar industry (number theory begat RSA encryption which now underpins _everything_ we do).

But I will say that precise control of laser wavelength is critical to today’s communication technologies. I doubt their new techniques will be useless.


Hopefully the billions money in AI will find some of its to turn this into real life applications. AI inference would love some more faster more efficient communication.

I mean, Photonic computing already got the attention of these big tech companies.


I think it's more relevant for quantum computing. The ions we choose for ion trap quantum computers are in part due to what wavelengths are excitable by modified telecom lasers, because they're the wavelengths that are easiest to produce and where the most research/stability/miniaturization has been focused. If the laser wavelength is configurable to this degree then it no longer becomes a constraint, and maybe you can choose single ions with different characteristics.

Not an expert in the field but it seems to me the key points are.

Generating any wavelength. (this article)

Accurately measuring wavelength. (otherwise there's no information benefit to arbitrary wavelength generation)

Wavelength insensitive holographic gates. (If they work on that frequency, and in a way that does not change the frequency) I don't know what properties such devices currently have

Assuming all of those, your ability to compute increases to your ability to distinguish wavelengths.

You could theoretically calculate much more in a way you could never detect, but then you get into some really interesting tree falling in a forest issues.


Depends on the cost. We already have variable wavelength lasers. We have had them for years. They are currently expensive, large, and not the easiest things to control electronically.

I have an application in mind for this technology outside of photonic computing. Again, it depends entirely on price, tunability, bandwidth of the profile, etc. My understanding of the photocomputing field is limited but I never thought the major issues were wavelength related? Maybe someone can educate me.

If anyone wants to send me one of these I would be pumped.


There's a lot of people here with esoteric knowledge of lasers, because they're generally incredible devices (along with masers). Someone should be able to comment.

I wish we had a large laser manufacturing ability in the West. I would say 95% of lasers of all kinds are manufactured in China.


The short answer if there is any "there" there for photonic computing is no, maybe.

You need to understand quantum physics[3,2]. For example, photonic computing, photonic logic does not have a switch equivalent as semiconducting (CMOS transistor) or superconducting (Josephson Junction JJ) but we have a photonic Mach Zener interferometer (MZI) and a photon detector.

Photonics and superconducting electronics is always going to be much larger in size (and therefore more expensive) than semiconductors build from few atoms.

In quantum physics photonics we have advantages like quantum impedance, you can replace wires with photon transmitters and photodetectors and thus switch with only a few photons instead of large numbers of electrons.

With photonics you can have billions of cheap low power data channels instead of high power wire bundles. But MZI as JJ will probably always be a few orders of magnitude larger than transistors so switching is not going to be better, but interferometry is.

Shorter answer still: just low power communications and information processing yes, computing no.

Bulk CMOS manufacturing is still cheaper than all the alternatives we have discovered or invented, until we learn to manufacture atom by atom or compute with single photons or electrons (also dependent on molecule by molecule self-assembly), we will stay with CMOS and Moore's law.

Just listen to David B. Millers[1] lectures [2], his lectures are a shortcut to reading all his papers[2] that explain it all, especially [3].

Email me, I'll give you a private lecture.

Your question's anwer is/was a summary of our whole lives research [4]:

[1] https://appliedphysics.stanford.edu/profile/35

[2] https://www.youtube.com/@davidmillerscience

[3] Attojoule Optoelectronics for Low-Energy Information Processing and Communication https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=7805240

[4] Wafer Scale Integration Free Space Optics Computing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbqKClBwFwI




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