If you think you’re stepping on the janitor, maybe you should stop.
It’s a job, not a caste. When you apply to work somewhere as a janitor you expect to work as a janitor. Don’t pity people doing a job that pays less, you have no idea what their story is or why they’re doing what they’re doing.
And if you think you aren’t adding to collective wealth and making salaries go further and further than they have before by growing the pie, maybe you should switch jobs and find one that keeps that pie growing.
>I'm saying everyone including you participates in this fake BS. As if being nice to the janitor solves the fundamental problem. It just covers it up.
Are you're saying that unless other folks make as much money as you do, they should not be treated with simple human respect, because doing so points up the inequality in our society?
Wow.
Being kind to the folks around you has nothing to do with wealth/income inequality or other issues in our society.
Rather, it's about our shared humanity.
What's more, being kind (or at least polite) is the least you could do. If you're not willing to do so unless that other person has something you want, what does that say about you?
I'm not telling you what to do, think or say, but I hope i never meet you.
>Are you're saying that unless other folks make as much money as you do, they should not be treated with simple human respect, because doing so points up the inequality in our society?
Are you putting words in my mouth?
Wow.
Being kind to folks is basic knowledge. Everyone knows it. The article is obvious. It's not telling anyone anything new. Why was such an obvious article written? For what purpose. Certainly not to teach engineers to be nice to poor people. That's obvious... no need to teach them.
It was written to make you feel better about yourself and your relative position to the people you step on everyday when they clean your toilet because you can't clean it yourself.
>I'm not telling you what to do, think or say, but I hope i never meet you.
How ironic. Being kind is basic knowledge. Yet you say something like this while purporting to be kind... even though it's quite obvious we are unlikely to ever meet. Why waste energy to say something we both know? Why did you say something so obvious?
You said it to be mean. While pretending not to be mean. Why? Because it makes you feel better.
>>Are you're saying that unless other folks make as much money as you do, they should not be treated with simple human respect, because doing so points up the inequality in our society?
>Are you putting words in my mouth?
No. Note the question mark at the end of the sentence. That means (as apparently you are unaware) it's a question, not a statement.
That was the impression I got from your comment. Apparently, I misunderstood your point (and if so, I'm not sure what your point was. Perhaps you could elucidate?). My apologies.
>Being kind to folks is basic knowledge. Everyone knows it. The article is obvious. It's not telling anyone anything new. Why was such an obvious article written? For what purpose. Certainly not to teach engineers to be nice to poor people. That's obvious... no need to teach them.
It should be basic, but it isn't. And more's the pity.
I didn't read (nor do I intend to) the article.
I have no idea why an article I didn't write (or read, for that matter) was written. Perhaps that's something you might ask the author.
>It was written to make you feel better about yourself and your relative position to the people you step on everyday when they clean your toilet because you can't clean it yourself.
If you say so. But as I didn't read the article, it doesn't make me feel anything.
I'd add that I'm kind and polite to people not because they have something I want, but because I respect other humans and myself.
>>I'm not telling you what to do, think or say, but I hope i never meet you.
>How ironic. Being kind is basic knowledge. Yet you say something like this while purporting to be kind... even though it's quite obvious we are unlikely to ever meet. Why waste energy to say something we both know? Why did you say something so obvious?
Because your comment appeared to not only demean those who clean up after you, but also to beat up on others because you think that being kind to such folks isn't sincere.
It's been my experience (I'm more than half a century old) that when folks ascribe motivations to other people, that reflects the motivations of the speaker rather than the recipient.
As such, I can only assume that you feel that way. I don't want to interact with folks like that. Hence my statement.
I didn't say that to be mean, as I have no interest or stake in your personal emotional state.
Rather, I said it because I don't want to be around folks who present themselves as the only arbiters of other peoples' motivations and feelings.
>You said it to be mean. While pretending not to be mean. Why? Because it makes you feel better.
Your assertion doesn't make it true. I don't need to make others feel bad (or have others make me feel good) to feel good about myself.
I try to live my life as a decent, kind person. I don't always succeed, but I do my best. And that's enough for me.
Do you clean someone else's mess? Are you wiping up someone else's shit? It's a demeaning job. There is clearly a difference. I think you're sort of trying to dance around it.
It’s a job, not a caste. When you apply to work somewhere as a janitor you expect to work as a janitor. Don’t pity people doing a job that pays less, you have no idea what their story is or why they’re doing what they’re doing.
And if you think you aren’t adding to collective wealth and making salaries go further and further than they have before by growing the pie, maybe you should switch jobs and find one that keeps that pie growing.