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Intel has been saying 10nm is ready and in production for almost 3 years now, not holding my breath.


They’re entering high volume production according to the article. 7nm is basically taped out and they’re working on 5nm.


Back in 2016-17, around Skylake/Kaby Lake, I remember getting all excited with some friends about the prospect of Intel 10nm, which they were saying would be used for their immediately upcoming series of chips.

Now that it's 2019 and they're finally claiming to enter high-volume production of 10nm, I have a really hard time taking any claims they make about future lithography nodes at face value.


"High-volume production" of just Ice Lake-U, no Ice Lake-H, no Ice Lake-S, no Ice Lake-SP, etc. Intel can say whatever they want but they're shipping a pretty small number of chips.


Current roadmap has Ice Lake-SP in 2020.

I know people like to meme that Intel is never going to advance nodes ever again, but they are finally launching 10nm products. Ice Lake-U is launched and server comes next.

Desktop is going to hold back for a while simply because Coffee Lake/Comet Lake are such high clockers that Ice Lake won't be able to outperform them, and it relieves the strain on 10nm fabs.

Core for core Coffee Lake still outperforms Zen2 through raw clocks, although IPC is starting to fall behind.


This 10mm Ice Lake CPU officially launched in June at Computex... Three months later they are nowhere to be seen, and nobody is showing a product including this CPU. So what is going on?


> entering high volume production according to the article

Obviously, we need to know the definition of "high volume production"...


The Oregon and Israel fabs, Chandler, AZ coming next quarter. It’s a guess as to actual volume though. However that they are expanding their production throughout fabs means they have confidence in their process now (i.e. high yield).

But as others point out, these are their server parts and not desktop parts yet. We’ll have to see when those start shipping.




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