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I'm sure Twitter knows which are the bot accounts and is surely excluding them from their model training. Twitter bots aren't a new phenomenon after all.

I don't think Twitter/X know for sure who the bots are, since Elon has been pretty vocal about trying to stop them for ages, yet I still get lots of spam DMs (as do others with far fewer followers/reach).

Even if 95% of the spam gets actively reported and dealt with, that still leaves a ton of nonsense on the platform, getting fed into the LLM. And spam has only gotten worse over the years, as the barrier to entry has lowered and lowered.


Are the spam DMs advertisements or more generally something linked to a product or service? I wouldn't be surprised if X is more lenient towards bots that pay them for adverts.

Most of what I get seem to be advertisements or automated messages if you follow large(r) accounts.

One of the most interesting things that I've noticed is these advertisements will be triggered if you follow accounts that are positioned as influencers. I followed one out of curiosity and received a DM from that account advertising some cryptocurrency service.

It's a good way to filter out and block accounts that have almost certainly not grown organically.


I'd have guessed that at least some of the bots are Twitter itself, trying to draw you in with some sense of engagement. Given that Musk is the owner, and everything we know about him and have seen him do, I'd not be surprised if some of the MAGA bots are his too.

"Elon has been pretty vocal about trying to stop them for ages"

Elon lies a lot. Like ALL THE TIME.


>Elon has been pretty vocal about trying to stop them for ages

You know people lie, right? Especially when the lie casts them in a better light and/or makes them more money.


Elon lied on record many times, admitting to the lies only when forced, under oath.

Highly doubtful seeing as my 14 year old twitter account got caught in a recent bot ban wave with no means of contacting a human for recovery.

There is bots everywhere, it has nothing to do with the platform, it has to do with attackers having an incentive to do mass account farming, no platform is secure against it.

Super easy, just make a web-of-trust type of thing: messages are only visible to those who already vouched for you. Otherwise, you pay $0.01/per message/per user reached.

How would that solve it? If I pay, I can still push the content I want (factual or not) which is the same equivalent as paying for accounts directly.

By buying accounts, you are buying reputation. By paying for the posts, you are maybe paying for reach at first, but (a) it will be costly and (b) it does not guarantee that the reached ones will spread anything further.

With banning and deboosting they need to be very accurate but with filtering they can be more liberal in excluding

not really. there are easy heuristics to filter out bots with good confidence. FWIW i don't see any bots posting anything in my feed

Yes your individual feed isn't really relevant if we talk about the masses, Reddit accounts are for sale quite cheap, HN as well, X too and so-on, it's literally just a matter of means/methodology. If I want today to do 1000 random posts talking about a certain thing, I could.

my individual feed does matter because it shows that it is possible to curate something without bots which is obviously what XAI would do

congratulations, you have solved anti-scam. go make your billion since its easy.

its easy to solve at the offline level where you have time to filter out. in fact this is already done in pre-training by OpenAI and other companies.

you think its hard?



And "fair"

Just curious - what's the point of linking to an older post which doesn't have any comments?

From less than a day ago -

Germany Overtakes US in Ammunition Production Capacity

141 points, 163 comments

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47944924



Actual title -

Per-image principal component decomposition of the Kodak Lossless True Color Image Suite

From HN Guidelines [0]

Use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


It can't really lose to git, because underlying it is git

That's basically any editor with multi-cursor capability.


On the Ruby Native pricing page [0], do the pricing tiers include the app store charges?

What I mean is, if I were to take the starter bundle at $299/mo, do I still need to pay Apple and Google their store subscription charges?

[0]: https://rubynative.com/pricing


You still need to pay $99 to Apple (every year). Ruby Native doesn't replace your accounts, it just augments them.


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