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As much as I use AI in daily workflows, I do not think an AI-first society will ever be a thing.

Historically there is no evidence of that happening with tech revolutions - or rather perhaps you could say to some extent - you can not say that we are an internet-first society, or cars-first society or mobile phone - first society despite these being profound technological revolutions.

And more importantly, the only science fiction movies that talk about "AI first societies" tend to be dystopian in nature (eg Terminator). And humans eventually always do better than that.

As much as the world in Star Trek is advanced for example, with all the fancy AI there is, it is still a human-first society. Only 10% of any Star Trek is about AI and fancy technologies, 90% is still human drama.


"Historically there is no evidence of that happening with tech revolutions - or rather perhaps you could say to some extent - you can not say that we are an internet-first society, or cars-first society or mobile phone - first society despite these being profound technological revolutions."

I'm... not actually sure I agree. The US *has* become a more cars first society. Our cities are designed around cars: parking space requirements for business, lacking of biking infrastructure in favor of more lanes, even the introduction of jaywalking as a crime. We've become much more of an internet first society too, we don't use books for research, our banking is largely done online, even humans social circles have moved much more online (probably to the detriment of society).

None of those technologies are as powerful/disruptive as where it seems that AI and LLMs are headed, so it's possible that societies shift towards "AI-first" will be more profound that it was for any of the other technologies listed.


People could not imagine how the PC was going to be a dominant computing paradigm until it was. I think I would argue in the direction that "this seems less likely". But I have been in this game almost 30 years. Anything goes. Also America looks "car first" empirically speaking from where I sit. The thing I am asking is if AI alters the collective human survival loop enough. Cars absolutely did. If people collectively can use AI to create a survival benefit they will. If enough people do this it starts looking more and more like an essential thing and not separable from the societies survival. So maybe it is the framing of "x-first" it is more like "x-dependent" perhaps? And what is a survival benefit? Just ask your brain why we go to work every week :)


FWIW, I'm also a paid Kagi user and would like very much if I could use it with SearXNG or potentially have it include my own self-hosted services as part of my personal search results.

Most people crave conversation and interaction. Those that are busy enough to potentially really be bothered will either show that clearly, or tell you so.

In some age groups/environments, sure; but not in general. And if folks crave interaction they want it to be deeper than a surface level.

That's not saying you should not try, but learn to recognize early signs of folks not being interested and don't push it.


Where do you think deep social interaction starts?

Wherever it starts, it requires both sides willingness to go beyond the level of "quite a weather, huh". Without which the right approach is a quick and graceful exit. My 2c.

Just worked on adding categories to Kagi Small Web (inspired in part by OOH) last night.

https://kagi.com/smallweb

This did give it a new dimension.

Each has its own RSS feed too as well.


It feels like we're _so_ close to having StumbleUpon back.



It was an amazing site. Just click on the bookmark and discover something new.


That's great, will you also add the category field to the text file in the repo? These projects are often heavy on tech blogs and I'd like to filter those out.


We are classifying them at runtime, per entry. More accurate and LLMs are cheap.


My experience is the opposite - I haven't used my brain more in a while.. Typing characters was never what developers were valued for anyway. The joy of building is back too.


Same. I feel I need to be way more into the domain and what the user is trying to do than ever before.


100% same, I had brain fog before the llms, I got tired of reading new docs over and over again for new languages. I became a manager and lost it all.

Now back to IC with 25+ years of experience + LLM = god mode, and its fun again.


Correct, Kagi Assistant uses Kagi Search - with all modifications user made (eg blocked domains, lenses etc).


Thanks for your response! This does look great to me!

Another minor question but I found out that Kagi uses API for assistants and that did make me a little sad because some are major companies with 30 days logs and others so no logs iirc on kagi assistant or people referring it so felt a bit off (yes I know kagi itself keeps 0 logs and anonymizes it but still)

I looked at kagi's assistants API deals web page (I appreciate Kagi for their transparency) and it looks like iirc you ie. Kagi have a custom deal with Nebius which isn't disclosed.

Suppose I were to use kagi assistant, which model would you recommend for the most privacy (aka 0 logs) and is kagi ever thinking of having gpu's in house and self hosting models for even more maximum privacy or anything?

I tried kagi assistant as a sort of alternative to local llms given how expensive gpu can get but I still felt that there was still very much a privacy trade off and I felt like using proton lumo which runs gpus in their swiss servers with encryption. I am curious to hear what kagi thinks


> with all modifications user made

I've been wondering about that! Nice to have confirmation



Good to see more projects plugging into Kagi Small Web.

It has been a passion project of mine since inception and just recently reached over 2000 commits, adding about 10 new websites every day (around 29,000 total at the moment).

It is also the first thing open in my browser every morning.

You can view these blogs visually at https://kagi.com/smallweb and content from all of them is surfaced high in Kagi search results (when relevant).


Oh this is neat. Explains why I’ve seen a few Kagi referrals in my analytics.

Thanks for your work on this. It’s appreciated!


It is explained on that very page :)


Kagi Search is huge! (for those using it)


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